====== Participants ======

Kai, Tom, Daniel, Aaron


====== Summary, Actions ======

   * From now on, provenance calls will be biweekly, probably intertwined with calls of the DCMI architecture forum regarding the new DCAM.
   * DC-Provenance will focus on the creation of a mapping between PROV and DC. We will have a close look at the approach for schema.org.
   * Some meta work is required: Goal is to establish (and document) processes incorprating github as versioning and tracking system that allow us to efficiently develop and publish all sorts of results, like mapping ontologies, documents, ...




====== Minutes ======


  * [17:16] <dgarijo> Kai: summary of the w3c f2f meeting discussions
  * [17:21] <dgarijo> Kai: as a summary, the w3c Prov group wants to support "scruffy provenance", and simplify the model.
  * [17:21] <dgarijo> Tom: agrees, in fact some of the comments I did to the model was about that respect.
  * [17:21] <dgarijo> Kai: some of the discussions were similar to the ones taken place in Dc
  * [17:23] <dgarijo> Kai: the new way of "understanding" is the ontology
  * [17:23] <dgarijo> Kai: in DCAM we could do the same thing
  * [17:24] <dgarijo> ... start with the ontology, then the spec documents
  * [17:25] <dgarijo> ... new activity: mapping between prov-o and DC/ Dcterms
  * [17:25] <dgarijo> ... Kai and Daniel involved in this task
  * [17:35] <dgarijo> Kai: we can include the metadata provenace model in the mapping task,
  * [17:36] <dgarijo> Kai: however there are still tasks remaining to do about metadata provenance (use cases, new properties, etc.)
  * [17:37] <dgarijo> ... with the mapping task we could address part of this, since they have all the use cases.
  * [17:37] <dgarijo> ... proposes beweekly DCAM telecons
  * [17:41] <dgarijo> Aaron: question about the mapping: Is it a 1 to one mapping?
  * [17:42] <dgarijo> Kai: from the prov working group they are very open to the result of this work
  * [17:43] <dgarijo> Kai: I'd like to have some implementations also.
  * [17:45] <dgarijo> Kai: Dc is designed more as a scruffy provenance than proper provenance
  * [17:45] <dgarijo> ... for real applications that is what is most commonly used
  * [17:46] <dgarijo> Tom: loves the difference between scruffy and proper
  * [17:48] <dgarijo> ... people who use the standards have a much more complex view of the world (i.e., in FRBR people have manifestations, expressions, etc).
  * [17:48] <dgarijo> ... if you have a complicated model you need to have this scruffy model interoperability
  * [17:49] <dgarijo> ... because of the interpretations made by people over the same model.
  * [17:49] <dgarijo> ... in practice is what works better.
  * [17:50] <dgarijo> ... a lot of