michaelp2: Ed and Diane are sending regrets.
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michaelp2: Topic: Housekeeping
kaiec: Smaller Points for the Agenda:
kaiec: Video-Presentation
kaiec: DC Report of Makx
kaiec: Is the Agenda for Pittsburgh ready?
michaelp2: ACTION: Put agenda an Wiki
michaelp2: ACTION: Three slides with voiceover for workshop presentation
michaelp2: (Michael)
michaelp2: Kai: Phone call with Alex Haffner; he has good UC
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michaelp2: RDF Next steps
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michaelp2: Kai: Make contact to RDF community
michaelp2: … Ivan Herrman, Chris Bizer, etc.
michaelp2: ACTION: Write email to Chris Bizer (Kai)
michaelp2: Topic: Alex Haffner's UC case
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michaelp2: … where metadata provenance is needed for linked data application of RDA
michaelp2: Slide 35-37
michaelp2: Kai: Introduction of a “Relator” entity into a S P O triple to hang assertions about the triple off of.
michaelp2: … This is a challenge to interoperability, because it introduces something that is foreign to the ontology (here: RDA)
michaelp2: Daniel: There exists a transformation of Dublin Core relations into OPM
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michaelp2: Michael: I think what Alexander talks about is out of scope for us. What he is trying to represent is still information inside the domain model. It's not about the data. It's about provenance in general.
michaelp2: … It's a boxing issue.
michaelp2: Michael: We don't want to find a general solution how to break the design limitation of RDF to make statements that are more than Subject/Predicate/Object (or how to express metastatements in general in RDF.)
michaelp2: Kai: Can we flag a property like dc:subject to indicate that there is additional provenance information associated with it?
michaelp2: Michael: Let's try to deal with this together with the next topic:
michaelp2: Topic: Working def. for metadata prov
michaelp2: Michael: My take: Metadata provenance is information about the data aspect of a piece of metadata that is independent of the domain model of the resources described by the original piece of metadata.
michaelp2: Daniel: Def. sounds good, but needs examples for what is metametadata and what is not.
michaelp2: Kai: Are there really independent things?
michaelp2: … or are there things that are relevant to many domains, which is something different.
michaelp2: ACTION: Add examples to definition
michaelp2: (Michael)
michaelp2: Kai: Overlap with Web of Trust. So Quality measure has to be part of metadata provenance.
michaelp2: … Might not be intuitive
michaelp2: … This challenges the notion of independence of domain. Does a quality measure cross the lines of domain vs. out-of-domain?
michaelp2: … Is something like “quality” in general about the data or the described resources?
michaelp2: ACTION: Capture discussion as Google Docs and on mailing list. (Kai)